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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
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no explanation, aces? :\ none?

i have to vote now, since i'm leaving soon. DP is the only living player who still makes sense to be bad without having a large amount of distancing taking place, if it's not him then we're going to have some work to do.



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:27 pm 
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TH, please don't forget to vote. :x



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
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And also BR*



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:09 pm 
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I think Kyle is the wrong way to go. It's now between DP and Sorsha for me, and something about Sorsha strikes me as genuine, and DP has a few votes, so I'll be voting there.


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Thank you TH. BR, its down to you at this point.... :x



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
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BR has 8 minutes to break this tie :o


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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:20 pm 
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Sorsha has the same number of posts as DP, and her interactions with LC were pretty smoking gun, IMO. She comes in, votes, leaves. Why DP and not her?

can you explain what you mean by smoking gun?

i discounted sorsha because zelda voted against her twice, and sorsha was the second player to vote against zelda before her lynch was a sure thing. she was also tied for a lynch against LC at a time when, if either one of sorsha and LC had voted for BR instead of voting for each other then they could have made it a tie between one of them and BR, giving them a 50/50 chance of not lynching one of their teammates, (rather than a 100% chance if sorsha were bad too).

it's possible those are examples of hardcore distancing but i don't feel like that sort of thing would be productive strategy-wise since it's very difficult for a single mafia member to win on their own.

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he said some things to LC that I wouldn't expect a teammate to say at that stage of the game.


Can you point these things out for me? I am not seeing what you are saying.


most of the posts i made about LC while he was alive can be found quoted in the post i made not long ago, the long one with all the quotes.


I have read them; I asking TH to point out specifically what he was talking about.

I saw the one post he pointed out, and I don't find it all that.


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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
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c*ap, I am so sorry. I just got home from setting up my food trailer and food shopping for Canada Day tomorrow. Also I won't be around at all tomorrow. I am up at out of here at 6am and will be back until 1 am. Hopefully I make lots of money. Still need to prep things so I am out of here now.

I would have voted Kyle.



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
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Then I guess it's lucky you missed the vote this time :0



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:22 pm 
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A Sailor Fallen

"I discovered something while you girls were gone to Queen Beryl's lair, and I believe you want to hear this" Luna announced.

The girls hovered around her as she jumped down from the chair, ready to hear what was so important.

"The first thing is, I have decided where the Moon Sceptor is being held but only half of you can go. The other half must stay behind but can listen to the important information that was stolen from the lair by AcesfSpaces" Luna continued.

"Luna, how would we decide such a thing?" Sailor Jupiter asked.

"From the ones that go to find the Sceptor, 1 of you will find it. This will be a random decision and the Sceptor will possess great power. Who will be worthy to take such a chance? In other words girls, who among you do you trust the most that isn't deceiving you? The rest that stay here with me will view the disk and see what secrets we may need to find the traitor amongst us... I need you to decide in the next 24 hours." Luna replied.

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DP has been lynched! He was Sailor Venus!

It is now Night 6!! You now must select who will have a chance to find the Sceptor. You will vote for TWO people and the Top 3 will have the opportunity to find it. Choose carefully! You have 24 hours to send in all night pms!



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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Bummer. Rest in peace DP :(


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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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So Kyle, what does process of elimination tell you now?


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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:35 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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I voted for Black Rock and for myself. I have fairly strong civvie feels for a few more of us, but I trust myself & BR most.


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I think Kyle is the wrong way to go. It's now between DP and Sorsha for me, and something about Sorsha strikes me as genuine, and DP has a few votes, so I'll be voting there.


So, what is your opinion now, TH?


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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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RIP DP :\ sorry I was wrong about you. I guess the solution wasn't as simple as I'd hoped. :\

@SVs, the process of elimination tells me that I was wrong about someone i'd decidrd to trust based on vote stats etc. Whoever is the last baddie has effectively distanced from their old teammates.



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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Ok, good thing I checked in before bed. RIP DP. I voted for TH and SVS because my process of elimination gives me civvie vibes on those two. See you guys in about 36 hours, give or take.



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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I still feel like BR, Aces and SVS are still most likely civs, and I think their hearts are on the right place but they're on the wrong track, and I would prefer this scepter go to someone who isn't trying to kill me, which leaves turnip head and sorsha one of which is possibly bad...



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
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I think Kyle is the wrong way to go. It's now between DP and Sorsha for me, and something about Sorsha strikes me as genuine, and DP has a few votes, so I'll be voting there.


So, what is your opinion now, TH?

That I need to reread everything, and that we need a lot more discussion tomorrow.

I'd still like to know what you're seeing in Kyle that I'm missing.

I'm voting myself and BR, the only two players I feel 100% about


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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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m in 100% agreement about the more discussion thing, I expected discussion to increase more than it did today after Boogs' ultimatum, but it was still just like 3 or 4 people talking.

I'm going with TH and BR,



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Day 6
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I think Kyle is the wrong way to go. It's now between DP and Sorsha for me, and something about Sorsha strikes me as genuine, and DP has a few votes, so I'll be voting there.


So, what is your opinion now, TH?

That I need to reread everything, and that we need a lot more discussion tomorrow.

I'd still like to know what you're seeing in Kyle that I'm missing.

I'm voting myself and BR, the only two players I feel 100% about


So you don't think either Kyle or Sorsha can be bad? It has to be one of those two. It isn't BR, it isn't Aces. I know it isn't me, and, by your votes, I doubt it is you. Although that is subjective (and I say that knowing that the main reason I have any trust is MY votes), it could be you, but I would be pretty surprised.

So does Sorsha still strike you as genuine, and do you still think Kyle is the wrong way to go? Discussion would definitely be good, but rereading those two (and doing a search of their names within Zelda & LC's posts) should clear it up, IMO.

Most of all I would like to hear from Sorsha & Kyle today.


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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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Also to answer your question about Kyle, first it was how he pushed the "tonights kill" option pretty hard, until I pushed back. There were WAY too many ways to manipulate that, IMO. And then the way he pushed hardest for DP. When you are the last baddie left, and have some fairly strong civvies in the thread, low posters are the easiest way to go. It's easy to convince people they are flying low.

And the fact that he kept pushing DP as well.

That is what I am seeing in Kyle. BUT I also still am worried about Sorsha, her early votes and the way LC reacted to her... it could have just been LC setting her up for after he was lynched, though.


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Not sure what the scepter thing is but I'm voting for BR and SVS. Hopefully if they get it it will give them some info or show them that I'm civvie... :shrug:


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SVS, I pushed tonights kill option because I didn't want to die, and you're again discounting the real reasons for the DP lynch and substituting your own. :0 DP was the only player who had never had any negative relation with LC or Zelda.

I spoke up and started making cases because Boogs made that post about modkills and stuff, and DP just made the most sense. I kept pushing DP because you started pushing me, and again he seemed like the most likely to be bad based on surface level stuff... That turned out to be wrong though...



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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DP had no negative or positive relation with ANYONE.


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That's untrue, DP voted in every single poll. And he expressed opinions at some, its not fair to say he never interacted with anyone.



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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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At this point I think anybody except Aces and BR (unless one of them was secretly recruited or something crazy), has the same likelihood of being the baddie. Whoever the last baddie is is playing a smart game, and the thread has overall been too quiet for me to get any seriously strong baddie vibes from anyone in particular. I have reasons to trust all of you, which makes me inclined to trust none of you.

So I guess all that is to say that I equally suspect SVS, Kyle and Sorsha at this point, all for mostly the same reasons. I've been leaning civvie for all 3 of them for most of the game, but the baddie must obviously be among the three of them, and whoever it is has played a slick game as far as voting and posting goes, so I have no idea.

BR, who do you think it is and why? You said you would have voted for Kyle yesterday, is it for the same reasons that SVS is citing?

Ace, it's likely that either Zelda or the remaining baddie urged for your death the night after Dex's lynch. I think what you said in the thread could have been construed as a role hint on your part, it's probably why you got killed, but who do you think was responsible for that? Was it Zelda, or a baddie that's still alive?

I think a quiet atmosphere is one that SVS could excel in as a baddie, and while nothing she's said has outright pinged me, I wonder if there aren't perhaps certain parts of her civvie game that are missing here.


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 Post subject: Re: Sailor Moon Mafia- Night 6
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